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Cyber Essentials plus + "legacy" network segments

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This discussion concerns the challenges of achieving Cyber Essentials Plus certification in environments with 'legacy' network segments, common in manufacturing. These segments contain outdated or unpatchable systems isolated by internal firewalls and minimal allow-lists. The referenced guidance suggests using 'Scenario 2' de-scoping, where the entire organization remains in scope but internal segmentation is relied upon for control. Internet access from these legacy segments is tightly controlled via proxy with machine-specific whitelisting, limiting exposure. Local assessors consider the risk negligible due to these controls. There is no indication of an active vulnerability or exploit, but rather a compliance and risk management consideration.

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For customer reasons my org is looking to obtain Cyber Essentials Plus. We're not based in the UK and there are some differences between my local cyber security "accreditation" regime.

This leads me to "legacy" network segments... The bane of any manufacturing environment. They contain relics, modern systems with unhardenable configurations or unpatchable applications, mystery hardware appliances, and so on. The segments are firewalled at the boundary, minimal allow-lists, etc.

I'm reading that a "Scenario 2" de-scoping would be the order of the day here (As per here - https://ce-knowledge-hub.iasme.co.uk/space/CEKH/2708766742/Subset+Scoping+Guidance). The whole org would be in scope (which is desirable) and the internal firewalling should be segmentation enough.

The catch is around internet access. Some of the modern devices on these "legacy" segments are able to establish machine-specific white-listed connections through a proxy to do various things: Periodic software activation checks, cloud-based EDR and application allow-listing updates. They are technically blocked from direct outgoing internet access at the boundary (and gateway) and opening a web browser isn't going to get anywhere due to a limited whitelist. The local assessors recognise that the risk is mitigated to negligible due to these (and other) technical and policy controls.

Is this going to be a problem for CE+?

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